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Re: [GBW] [GBW_EXEC] New England Update, second try
IN response to Karl's question about finances, I'd like to add a comment.
People pay dues to our organization for many reasons, only one of which is
hard copy publication. The Guild hosts workshops, lectures and events, and
other members' activities. If the publications were freely distributed
electronically and dues remained the same, it would actually benefit by
increasing the range of activities which could be offered to the paying
membership.
Sam Ellenport
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM, eberth <jake6@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I was a dues paying member of the Guild for over 20 years before
> discontinuing my various subscriptions. I felt that the the Guild was
> moving
> in a direction that actually impeded the desemination of information and
> discouraged participation by non members. I like some of the ideas Peter
> suggested but I also believe that if anybody is interested in anything
> we're
> doing it should not be limited to members only. Don't you want as much
> participation as possible? Also the concept of withholding information that
> could be posted online shortly after an event is over or after a certain
> publication date seems punitive and exclusive.
> I also wonder how this all affects the finances of The Guild and the
> various chapters. If opportunities to be expansive create handringing and
> number crunching, (won't we lose money), responses, then change is truly
> glacial.
> Karl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Verheyen" <verheyen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'The email list for Guild of Book Workers member communications'"
> <gbw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [GBW] [GBW_EXEC] New England Update, second try
>
>
> > The Guild has had these discussions since it went online. First it was
> > don't
> > go online lest non-members see it, then it was only with basic
> > organizational information, then "ok, the Newsletter but only if delayed
> > by
> > several issues..." At the one who first put the Guild online it's been a
> > struggle at best and in many respects the Guild missed the boat. That
> > doesn't mean it can't catch up but it's going to mean a lot of work.
> >
> > 1. Decide what the true benefits of membership are.
> > 2. Decide which need to be truly for "members only."
> > -Standards and exhibitions come to mind.
> > -Workshops could be discounted for members.
> > -The Journal, especially if revitalized...
> > -This listserv, quiet as it is.
> > 3. The other things should be seen as and USED as marketing tools.
> >
> > That latter category includes the various newsletters. Let's face it,
> > there
> > is very little that is truly unique in any of them. The calendars are
> > limited and gleaned from other sources where they are freely available,
> > and
> > the few other articles and announcements should serve to ATTRACT new
> > members. The little Guild admin news and other occasional columns? What's
> > the harm if those are seen? For the Chapters, where it seems increasing
> > the
> > life of the Guild resides, the same should hold true. Don't you want new
> > members? I think the NE Chapter deserves praise for jumping into the fray
> > like this (never mind the fact that they have been online and are the
> most
> > up to date) and California and Southeast are right there too. The rest...
> >
> > At the end of the day ALL functions of the Guilds should have a vibrant
> > presence online, including and especially Chapters.
> >
> > For Standards that should be recaps of past events with links to the
> order
> > form for videos (and behind a firewall the handouts), the Newsletter put
> > it
> > online and if you insist one issue behind but with the index freely
> > available (member contact info can be removed - leave the ads the
> sponsors
> > will thank you for increasing their visibility), the Journal at a minimum
> > an
> > index/table of contents, Exhibits online with link to order print version
> > of
> > catalog (this WORKS and raises $$$).
> >
> > Today's bookies are increasingly networked and network savvy. If
> something
> > doesn't exist, they'll create it. The Guild must ACTIVELY reach out to
> > that
> > audience to remain visible if not viable. I don't see that happening. I
> > see
> > barriers being put in place in an effort to remain "exclusive." Much has
> > changed in the past 15 ~ 20 years, and opportunities that didn't exist
> > then
> > (or were isolated/remote) are not a mouse click away. Lots of
> > opportunities
> > everywhere and vibrant and dynamic media abound and I'm not just
> referring
> > to Book_Arts-L or The Bonefolder both of which just keep growing. There
> > are
> > numerous other ones to.
> >
> > I'd love to see some wider discussion of this, so let's have go, shall
> we.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > _____________________________________
> > Peter D. Verheyen
> > Bookbinder & Conservator, PA - AIC
> > <verheyen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > The Book Arts Web & Book_Arts-L Listserv
> > <http://www.philobiblon.com>
> > The Bonefolder: an e-journal for the bookbinder and book artist
> > <http://www.philobiblon.com/bonefolder>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gbw-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:gbw-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Alstrom GBW
> > Communications Chair
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:21 PM
> > To: gbw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [GBW] [GBW_EXEC] New England Update, second try
> >
> > I think the concern is not electronic/digital publications per se,
> > but how they are distributed. A blog, unless it can be password
> > protected, is open to all. That is not a bad thing, but we have to
> > know it will be accessed by non-members, too, if we decide to have
> > GBW/chapter blogs.
> >
> > Distributing newsletters, etc, via email is different. Only members
> > will get the email with the newsletter. Another alternative would be
> > to have a member-only section of the web pages with the publications/
> > info posted there.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Catherine Burkhard wrote:
> >
> >
> >> This, too, is a concern of mine. But....I think in the LSC, we'll
> >> continue
> >> with the newsletters, even tho done electronically.
> >>
> >> That's why I don't want to see the GBW Newsletter go electronic.
> >>
> >> Catherine
> >
> >
> >
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